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Need help from voobly, regarding Sheep v wolf

 CapitaLBulls


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 08:36
Hello everybody. There is big problem in sheep v wolf community right now.

Sheep v wolf is a fantastic custom scenario game but it's not that popular like RM or CBA games, there are limited players for svw. Now the big problem is, there are lot of good players banned in npl, who cannot play s v w there, due to that we cant have good games. If we try to host svw in cs, then we don't find enough players to play with, as there is community split in npl and cs lobby.

Many mods will suggest that invite svw players to cs lobby, but that is really not happening, we have tried that.

There are two possible solutions, which voobly administrators can provide us.
1. Instead of banning pro players from entering npl, ban them from playing rated games in npl, so that they can play games like, s v w, jurassic, cba ttm in npl.
2. Ban s v w mod in npl so that all go and play in cs lobby only, it can stop the svw community split.

Sheep v wolf game will die eventually, if steps are not taken to eradicate this problem. Many svw players have stopped coming online, becoz they know they wont find a room in CS and NPL is banned for them.
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 mf_


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 08:42
yes,yes,yes
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 MaTRiXxX_I_


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 08:44
Couldn't agree more..
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 +sunny@voobly


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 09:38
1. Instead of banning pro players from entering npl, ban them from playing rated games in npl, so that they can play games like, s v w, jurassic, cba ttm in npl.

We tried this and it didn't pan out well.
2. Ban s v w mod in npl so that all go and play in cs lobby only, it can stop the svw community split.

Sorry but this is also not possible.
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 [MM]acetheboss


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 09:50
yes this is a big problem, either allow banned players to enter npl or ban svw mod in npl
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 Amon__Amarth


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 10:36
Buy a Premium Team and mass your players in a own SvW-Lobby...
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 +Gallas


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Editiert 28. November 2017 - 12:10 von +Gallas
The problem is started when some people went back from CS to NPL, because they wanted "easy" games, rather than play vs experts and veterans.
As Sunny said, at the moment there is no possible way to limit a mod/map for a lobby, and NPL banning system was too fragile and able to abuse compared to what we have now.
I'm afraid the only way to save it, is the communication.
Own SvsW lobby will just split more imo (looking at aofe/ak lobby).
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 ['RB']nhoobish


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 12:37
Rename the Custom Scenario lobby to Game Mods and Custom Scenarios.
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 Amon__Amarth


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 15:38
Rename the Custom Scenario lobby to Game Mods and Custom Scenarios.

In the not too distant future the "rest of CS people" will moved into RM Lobby.

After 3 weeks - when the 1st CSler had reached the top ranks of RM ladder - we all "will be moved" back into NPL Lobby.

After discussions NPL Lobby will be renamed into Custom Scenario and the circle is closed ... rofl
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 ['RB']nhoobish


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 15:44
In the not too distant future the "rest of CS people" will moved into RM Lobby.

After 3 weeks - when the 1st CSler had reached the top ranks of RM ladder - we all "will be moved" back into NPL Lobby.

After discussions NPL Lobby will be renamed into Custom Scenario and the circle is closed ... rofl

I tried this, but then my RM - 1v1 points got reset, something about reporting and unfair cheat map. In my mind, it was totally legit.
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 Amon__Amarth


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Geschrieben 28. November 2017 - 15:55
+Gallas wrote:
The problem is started when some people went back from CS to NPL, because they wanted "easy" games, rather than play vs experts and veterans. ...

If you can't prevent that "veterans" (RM/CS) will playing in NPL, it is all a sweet illusion ...

When you know, how many "new accounts" created per day, than you know the reality.
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 +[MM]jason


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Editiert 29. November 2017 - 00:21 von +[MM]jason
I’d like to see a combined lobby with where you select which games to view. So 1 big lobby with 3 buttons up the top “random map” “new players” and “custom scenario” can add more for the other expansions. Clicking each button will list the corresponding games. Or even have it so you can list multiple lobby’s. This would bring the community closer and would be much easier than changing lobby’s.
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 ['RB']nhoobish


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Editiert 29. November 2017 - 12:32 von ['RB']nhoobish
+[MM]jason wrote:
I’d like to see a combined lobby with where you select which games to view. So 1 big lobby with 3 buttons up the top “random map” “new players” and “custom scenario” can add more for the other expansions. Clicking each button will list the corresponding games. Or even have it so you can list multiple lobby’s. This would bring the community closer and would be much easier than changing lobby’s.

G4m3R4ng3r filter interface alike? In a way it could be good, but then you do not actually see the true numbers of how many people potentially would be interested to play a certain thing.
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 +[MM]jason


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Editiert 29. November 2017 - 19:54 von +[MM]jason
G4m3R4ng3r filter interface alike? In a way it could be good, but then you do not actually see the true numbers of how many people potentially would be interested to play a certain thing.

That would be 1 limitation I guess, but the whole idea is so an rm player can easily try their hand at some cs and vice versa where normally they wouldn’t bother because it requires joining a different lobby.
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 agent6_t9


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Geschrieben 1. Dezember 2017 - 01:43
very silly idea:P...
how about play svw in med siege???.... svw is, after all, random map :)


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